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Unread 10-08-2003, 07:57 AM
Pork
 
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TO ALL: A degree at the undergraduate level is important outside of the professional (medical and legal) to give orientation of one's education toward a particular vocation. It also demonstrates a very important personal characteristic of "sticktuetiveness" [for those that don't under stand computereez that means STICK TO IT AND GET SOMETHING OUT OF IT]. This characteristic is so very important regardless of your chosen field of study.
I am a career educator by credential a BA in ED, I am a professional "killer of tanks and people" by training and on the job training and teaching and an Act of Congress; I am a professional Human Resources person by way of a Masters in counseling, experience, and on-the-job training. I am successful in the SWINE (PORK)WORLD as a an HR not because any of the above gave me the right of passage when in the interview process for this job. The GM told me a few months ago that the reason he was so impressed with my resume with cover letter was because of the entrance words in the cover letter wich got his attention: "I am the answer to your dreams; I have the experience, the education, the know how to run an HR department of 1 or several, and I am located in the area and there is no relocation required". It was bold, arrogant, positive, and most of all it did meet his dreams for the problems he was currently facing. His only concern was the last 18 years or so indicated several different employers all in the HR field; we discussed that concern and he was satisfied enough to make the job offer. I responded to his offer with a letter of thanks for the interview, but I was concerned for my total lack of "HOG KNOWLEDGE". The GM made the offer, I accepted and over several months now I have gained a respect from the SWINE EDUCATED FROM BOTH THE EXPERIENCED AND THE EDUCATED WITH EXPERIENCE HOG MAN AND WOMAN. They taught me the HOG vocation and I have taught all of them leadership!!!

In all of my different vocations & opportunities, I have seen the experienced ee pretty much running the operation and making things happen and the educated with experience leading and commanding with authority. I have also seen them fail!

Having been through three RIFs, I vote for the experience and proven leader regardless of education.

I also vote for the payment of wages and salary based on performance. We had a recent Master's graduate enroll in our manager-in-training program at a salary of $26,000, a top Ag school graduate in the swine field, after three weeks he quit. His reasoning was "I did not pay $35,000.00 for a master's degree to shovel manure and wipe a "sow's butt for breeding"! His self worth was way over valued; so degrees don't give you any indication of how much to pay, nor who will be successful! Pay the individual what he/she is worth based on proven history and success. All of the credentials in the world and a 50 cent piece might buy you a glass of water.

I hope this little story helps you sort through your concerns!!!

PORK
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Unread 10-08-2003, 08:09 AM
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I enjoyed that Pork. But, how did pig's manage to breed before there was someone paid to stand there and wipe their butt, as you put it?
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Unread 10-09-2003, 06:12 AM
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Unread 10-09-2003, 06:53 AM
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Pork, that is what I call "starting from the ground up" , shoveling manure
and wiping sow butt ! Actually, $ 26000 is pretty good wages for doing that.

Chari

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Unread 10-09-2003, 07:29 AM
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YEP: IT IS A BLESSED DAY FOR A NEW GRADUATE IN THE ANIMAL SCIENCE WORLD TO BECOME A MANAGER-IN-TRAINING IN OUR COMPANY. God put the animal on earth to populate the earth for man to: name, to use for God's glory, and to provide food for man to populate and live in this beautiful world of ours, HIS WORLD.

Your question Don is a good one, when in the wild and roming this earth free from man's caging actions it was the Boar's responsibility to "wipe the Sow's butt'prior to natural breeding". Now for your next lesson in animal husbantry "you should be so kind in your next mating opportunity".

Shoveling manure is a requirement generated by man, when we moved from the "outside method" of Swine farming to the "inside method" of Swine farming in this the animal science world of work. Every one must shovel a little manure each day or it gets pile high very quickly. After all, it is natural to eat, sleep, and produce manure by all of God's animals!!!

I know that is more information than you care to read, but I hope it helps you to sort through the issues of your day and go home having learned a little more about this "world of work". It is absolutely amazing what one can do to earn a wage, a good one at that, $26,000.00 for a first day graduate, ain't bad change!

Eat more PORK, it is good for us all. The dirty Swine animal of many years ago is no longer the same animal on many of our farms all over the world today. It is truly the other white meat and is safe to eat when properly cook.

"Dandy Don" try a Boston Butt prepared the same way you do your turkey including the flour and the injection and you will enjoy another great way to prepare and serve pork! By the way all of you should go for the "Honey Suckle White" whole turkey at the 10 and 12 lb size to deep fat fry nest month. The "Honey Suckle White" is our brand of turkey.

PORK
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Unread 10-10-2003, 02:49 AM
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Never heard of the "Honey Suckle White" and I am from the South. Where can I get one -- just ask at my local grocers, or what?
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Unread 10-10-2003, 03:11 AM
Pork
 
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Dasher: Wal-Mart and Sam's, Kroger, Food Max are the large food chain retailers. I have just ordered a Honey White 12 lb. turkey for all employees for Thanksgiving at 89 cents a lb. Our processor is in North Carolina. Bryan Foods is our primary processor of prime grade Swine; Jimmy Dean in TN gets all other than prime. Bryan Foods is the brand name for the swine products.

Good eating everyone!!

PORK
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